(I was wrong lol) Ram 1500 REV vs Scout Terra Harvester

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Is there a reason these trucks arent using a diesel generator? When we had our 3L turbo diesel half ton, we were getting 30mpg combined with conservative driving through town.
 

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I think the long term is to get away from petroleum products all together
 
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Keep in mind scout would design this to integrate into its line up. They like GM would offer a home charger with bidirectional charging along with the
I think the long term is to get away from petroleum products all together
Which is not an option for rural areas where batteries are drained in 3 days of overcast weather, stranded on the highway in a snowstorm in Wyoming or Dakotas, after a hurricane when the power grid is knocked out, or at hunting camp for a week. If scout isnt trying to capture that market, then thats totally fine and im barking up the wrong tree. I was under the impression they wanted to convert or bring back people who used Scouts for being in the back country, not just those (in a completely non-derogatory way) who go glamping or end up at a place with charging every night. I think its a hell of a better option than the cybertruck and would love to see Scout prosper in whatever market theyre aiming for. Even if it ends up being not for me.
 

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Once again their could be both options gas and EV but solar in desolate areas would be the answer with battery storage. Charging stations can be put anywhere sun shines and the days it doesn't that's where battery storage comes into play. You could have a charging station anywhere I think ice and EV technology will co mingle for decades but the majority of users which successful companies cater to won't be going to off grid areas much and when they do Scout hopefully is the one offering answers.
 
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And may I mention, i have been loving the dialog and thoughtfulness in all the threads ive read. Ive learned so much in talking to you all and I wish there were more people who really sat down and thought about their realistic needs vs wants.
 

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Time to mow the lawn with my electric mower
 

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I to love people who think for themselves and ask questions it's refreshing enjoy your weekend
 

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You have it backwards, Scout Harvester will be 150 miles off battery with another 350 off of generator
No - you have it wrong - Pure electric models offer up to 350 miles of range. Scout's extended range models offer 150 miles of range or more through a built-in, gas-powered generator.
 

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No - you have it wrong - Pure electric models offer up to 350 miles of range. Scout's extended range models offer 150 miles of range or more through a built-in, gas-powered generator.
Nope I am not wrong and I am not referring to the pure electric model.

The Harvester or Extended Range model as you call it, is a 150 miles off battery as it is smaller battery in the Harvester than the full EVmodel they are offering.
 

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No this is wrong. The EREV has 150 miles of all electric range with approximately 350 more miles available when the range extender engine kicks on for a total range of 500 miles.

This has been since release though a lot of vloggers partipated in the confusion due to idle speculation and assumptions based off partial statements without referring to Scout Rep quotes with specific details.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw1JYezDZgGH8Rq4HhSVw-fX&ust=1758995746892000
 

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No this is wrong. The EREV has 150 miles of all electric range with approximately 350 more miles available when the range extender engine kicks on for a total range of 500 miles.

This has been since release though a lot of vloggers partipated in the confusion due to idle speculation and assumptions based off partial statements without referring to Scout Rep quotes with specific details.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&rct=j&url=https://community.scoutmotors.com/threads/harvester-talk-q-a.976/#:~:text=Scout%20models%20with%20the%20range,estimated%20350%20miles%20of%20range.&ved=2ahUKEwj3kcH2__aPAxVAnGoFHbjhLpYQmL8OegQIBxAF&opi=89978449&cd&psig=AOvVaw1JYezDZgGH8Rq4HhSVw-fX&ust=1758995746892000
Correct
 

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I do agree that a truck must do truck things. That's why I changed my reservation from the harvester to the EV. About RAM, I don't think we are going to see anything coming from them anytime soon, they have put a hold on their EV program, and that's why I canceled that order and made the reservation with Scout.
If you were OK with the Harvester and not an electric only purist, Stellantis hasn't shut down their EREV program though they stupidly renamed it.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a66069524/ram-1500-ev-pickup-dead-confirmed/
 

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Is there a reason these trucks arent using a diesel generator? When we had our 3L turbo diesel half ton, we were getting 30mpg combined with conservative driving through town.
There are two reasons. One VW green lighted Scout investment during the resolution of their Dieselgate scandal. It was originally going to be electric only but they pivoted as public pushback in the USA and limitations of EV infrastructure was becoming clear. They would have never approved a diesel option at the time.

The second reason is they are trying to hit aggressive affordability targets to have a big launch. Diesels are much more expensive to build and maintain. I would be unlikely to buy one for a personal vehicle unless I was selling my home and living in a large RV.

In the future they might add a Diesel as an extra cost option. But I think it would be more likely to come as an option to get one of these new multi fuel high efficiency engine options like LiquidPiston which can burn Diesel too.
 

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No they are not you could have this in your garage being used as a backup power source when not needed and designed to fit within Terra also a great camping option. Weighs about 200lbs
A 200 lb battery would have no bigger than 15 kw which is just a tinkle of juice when towing.

For me to consider a supplement pack over a Harvester for towing out to West Texas where there frequently isn't fast chargers, they may be broken, and they may require unhitching to charge, it would need to be 60kw, weigh 800 lbs and probably be a $8,000 option.

I'll be happy if Scout can deliver what they've promised hopefully with a little bump to the Harvester towing limit of 5k lbs which I suspect the limit is really the discharge speed of the battery and generator for the SAE J2807 hill climb towing test.
 
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