(I was wrong lol) Ram 1500 REV vs Scout Terra Harvester

[Brigand10]

Nope I am not wrong and I am not referring to the pure electric model.

The Harvester or Extended Range model as you call it, is a 150 miles off battery as it is smaller battery in the Harvester than the full EVmodel they are offering.

Scout Motors estimates the Traveler™ SUV and Terra™ pickup will have up to 350 miles (563 km) of all-electric range or more than 500 miles (804 km) for gas-powered range extender-equipped versions. These are manufacturer's projected estimate based on internal targets. EPA estimates will be provided when available.

Of their website: https://support.scoutmotors.com/en/...rer-estimated-range-will-scout-vehicles-offer

 

[lunterhow]

Scout Motors estimates the Traveler™ SUV and Terra™ pickup will have up to 350 miles (563 km) of all-electric range or more than 500 miles (804 km) for gas-powered range extender-equipped versions. These are manufacturer's projected estimate based on internal targets. EPA estimates will be provided when available.

Of their website: https://support.scoutmotors.com/en/...rer-estimated-range-will-scout-vehicles-offer

Correct, what you’re not understanding is the Harvester version has a smaller battery.

 

[Brigand10]

Correct, what you’re not understanding is the Harvester version has a smaller battery.

Thank you. Just wanted to make sure no one was being a Jimmy and ensuring the correct info is put out there

 

[totesmagoat]

A 200 lb battery would have no bigger than 15 kw which is just a tinkle of juice when towing.

For me to consider a supplement pack over a Harvester for towing out to West Texas where there frequently isn't fast chargers, they may be broken, and they may require unhitching to charge, it would need to be 60kw, weigh 800 lbs and probably be a $8,000 option.

I'll be happy if Scout can deliver what they've promised hopefully with a little bump to the Harvester towing limit of 5k lbs which I suspect the limit is really the discharge speed of the battery and generator for the SAE J2807 hill climb towing test.

The extra battery will also eat up payload, which brings towing down even more.

 

[joewilk45]

For those only towing grandkids and a wife which is the majority it maybe a good option. The Scout pack not to mention it also can be used to power the home or campsite options are always nice to have.

 

[endlessambition]

If you were OK with the Harvester and not an electric only purist, Stellantis hasn't shut down their EREV program though they stupidly renamed it.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a66069524/ram-1500-ev-pickup-dead-confirmed/

It seems stupid on the outside and from our limited knowledge. And maybe it is stupid. But I also saw another big Truck influencer on YouTube. He talked about how they wanted the name charger for a possible SUV version of the grand Wagoneer. Currently jeep is the only platform where that chassis or frame is sold, on the grand Wagoneer, which is not selling very well at all. This guy speculated that Stellantis could use the same frame and produce the ram charger full-size SUV. He referenced the Chevy Tahoe, Chevy, Yukon Chevy suburban Yukon, XL, Cadillac, Escalade, etc., etc. Across various divisions of the business but on the same frame. He hinted that they might want to do this with the grand Wagoneer and sell it across other brands of Stellantis

who knows….

 

[joewilk45]

Stellantis isn't selling well cause their products reliability is sub par and as to wagoner it's a big box. Style still matters they have none. They ruin the brand jeep is their only offering that is currently selling/ Wrangler , Cherokee but they have a long road ahead to me they lost their way and quality. Many more better options

 

[joewilk45]

Here's a boost pack.
https://electrek.co/2025/09/26/e-qu...rtable-dc-fast-charger-from-lincoln-electric/

 

[colinnwn]

Here's a boost pack.
https://electrek.co/2025/09/26/e-qu...rtable-dc-fast-charger-from-lincoln-electric/

Yes and that boost pack weighs 315 lbs, cost $21,000, and they haven't announced what the kWh energy rating of it is yet. You don't announce a firm price and have a buy page up with detailed specs until you know the BOM. This makes it very suspicious.

My guess it's 15 kWh or less - a really bad value except maybe for commercial customers that need a way to recover electric vehicles that die away from their base or a charging station.

https://www.lincolnelectric.com/en/Products/le-na-velion50kw?sku=K5765-1-W-X-M-W-R

 

[joewilk45]

I'm thinking a power wall on your roof rack with cable pre wired just like a luggage carrier. I'm sure the possibilities are endless for creative engineers.

 

[joewilk45]

We have 2 yrs to see the options that become reality

 

[joewilk45]

Stellantis information of how they took an icon and made it a dog.

 

[joewilk45]

Erev article
https://cleantechnica.com/2025/09/25/are-erevs-a-good-option-for-the-usa/

 

[LIGHTNING EV9]

I imagine there will be a nominal amount of interest in Hybrids, and ErEVs(extended range, with generator)...

but, in the end, I don't desire, for any reason, to 'get back' into the mode of having anything 'gas or oil' oriented maintenance-heavy equipment, requiring oil, filters, oil changes, and stopping at gas stations... that's why I own a pure EV truck, and, well, another pure EV three-row SUV... I don't suspect I'll ever 'need' any generator, either - my 'generators' are along the interstates and cities and towns across the U.S.: DC Fast Chargers.

I don't even have any gas or oil lawn equipment at home, and don't desire any of those, either.

but, that's just me. That may actually be a quite common sentiment, though - most folks might think that it's not really possible.... yet. They stick with what they know.

 

[colinnwn]

I feel like that article is a rehash of a lot of the thoughts I see on this and other EV websites. I agree with many of them, but I have some critiques as well.

Pro point 1 on who really fits the scenario - I think more than you just discounted if you consider people may do it a few times a year on vacations with limited time, and don't want to spend $40-60k on a vehicle that requires concessions or a rental.

Con point 1 is inaccurate. The cost of the larger battery that meets customer expectations is significant, and a small generator with half or less battery can cost less. There are companies that specifically make easily integrated hybrid generators.
https://www.horse.cars/

Con point 3 is really the alternative hand of pro point 1, and what mix of tradeoffs a customer is willing to make. The amount of extra battery it would take for me to accept all EV in my pick up or SUV is extremely expensive and heavy. It would have to be north of 600 mile range to account for my towing expectations and the 70-80% usage you should stay in for both longevity and emergency situation for unavailable charger.

Con point 4 isn't really a con unless the only metric of value is stopping gasoline use. It's an individual tradeoff decision. And there are things you could integrate into the car dashboard and car app to gamify plugging in like showing how much money you would have saved if you used electricity instead of gas, or how many trees worth of CO2 you would have not emitted.