EREV battery capacity deploying 6x faster than BEVs. Implications for Harvester?

[maynard]

It's like a mini series on Netflix it's going to take two yrs to know . Most likely specifics in a year once we place our official orders maybe they send us a hat once our check clears and then we track our orders progress. This Vehicle better be the woman I've been waiting for because I've seen what's behind the window and I want it and the journey is one of excitement. Hope to see some of you in SC or a trail

Yep - worse than waiting for that last portion of Yellowstone...

 

[timmyhil]

Michiganders need to be on the look out! Post if you see it!

It might be around the Detroit area since they have a office space there for powertrain development.

 

[maynard]

I will look - I have to go to Novi for Mitutoyo training next week and I think Scout is near there...

(excitement builds)


Edit:
Address: 29293 Haggerty Rd, Novi, MI 48377
I'm gonna do a few drive-bys to see what I can see (I'll try to avoid a restraining order)...

 

[maynard]

Have a high res camera ready.?

We'll have to settle for my iphone camera...

 

[timmyhil]

No restraining orders, they will just revoke your reservation lol

 

[maynard]

No restraining orders, they will just revoke your reservation lol

I'll print a sign for my rear window "Tim Hil on Tour"

 

[timmyhil]

I'll print a sign for my rear window "Tim Hil on Tour"

Me and the scout crew are boys lol. How do you think i get the nitty gritty stuff from them lol.

 

[TwoJacks]

To keep adding a larger battery does not seem elegant to me. I’m all for the generator. Hoping I can use the car just like an ice car. I had a Chevy Volt and once the novelty of charging wore off after two months, I just put gas in it and never plugged it in for the remainder of ownership.

I hope the generator can keep up with the demands of the car and there are no compromises.

Why bother with an EREV then at all? You’ll get better mpg out of a comparable ICE vehicle that doesn’t have to lug around a battery, and the battery manufacturing process means you’ll have a higher up front carbon footprint as well. Plug in hybrid’s and EREV’s make no sense if you never plug them in.

 

[TwoJacks]

Your points are correct!!

yet you’ll have people attacking you saying that there are no trails that long eventually. From people who have never been off-roading, hunting, fishing.

My use is mainly for fishing and then it’s also gonna be the daily driver for work commute.

Alaska is a special case, has poor charging infrastructure, and not at all like the driving 99.8% of people do in the lower 48.

 

[OlyScout]

I’m glad Scout confirmed to me that I can change more Traveler Harvester order to the EV only when I get to the build option because 150 miles is not what I thought and had it reversed. Also, we currently have a plug-in hybrid Volvo that gets 32 miles range (AKA 20 real miles) and find we really kick on the engine. We get warnings of old gas, and I imagine 150 mile range will meet 80% or more users so will old gas be an issue as well? For me, no overlanding, and the ability to use Tesla’s charging network, 350 miles (AKA 230 likely) is just fine so long as you deliver on the 0-60 and torque!

 

[esc-f8]

With current battery tech in production for a vehicle in Scout’s price range, the batteries are heavy.

The Harvester option, as presently envisioned, will be lighter which would be better especially for off-road since it would be half the battery weight at ~900# Instead of ~1800#.

Maybe the generator and fuel tank would weigh 900# anyway… who knows.

Best scenario is battery energy density doubles and you have a 900# battery with 120kWh AND a backup generator.

 

[joewilk45]

I’m glad Scout confirmed to me that I can change more Traveler Harvester order to the EV only when I get to the build option because 150 miles is not what I thought and had it reversed. Also, we currently have a plug-in hybrid Volvo that gets 32 miles range (AKA 20 real miles) and find we really kick on the engine. We get warnings of old gas, and I imagine 150 mile range will meet 80% or more users so will old gas be an issue as well? For me, no overlanding, and the ability to use Tesla’s charging network, 350 miles (AKA 230 likely) is just fine so long as you deliver on the 0-60 and torque!

Hello I have a 2023 XC 90 Recharge Ultimate Air suspension for get 36 miles pure electric I love the vehicle but debating keeping till scout becomes available or buy a Hyundai we leased Volvo lease is up 2026 could buy out 42 k or walk Do you like your Volvo and what year and model ? Thinking keeping Volvo love the ride 20 k miles no issues to date have level two chargers at both homes so ready to go full EV or r only inconvenience will be two trips to and from Florida (1,200) miles

 

[OlyScout]

Hello I have a 2023 XC 90 Recharge Ultimate Air suspension for get 36 miles pure electric I love the vehicle but debating keeping till scout becomes available or buy a Hyundai we leased Volvo lease is up 2026 could buy out 42 k or walk Do you like your Volvo and what year and model ? Thinking keeping Volvo love the ride 20 k miles no issues to date have level two chargers at both homes so ready to go full EV or r only inconvenience will be two trips to and from Florida (1,200) miles

We love our 2024 XC60 Recharge Ultimate! It is everything - air suspension, B&W, 21” wheels, etc. it’s our 3rd XC60. Previous was Polestar Recharge w/ 22”. We also have 2023 Model Y Performance.

That said, given their newness, we’re stuck for a few years to not make a rash decision since they have depreciated, but our next two will be the Scout Traveler and Toyota Land Cruiser.

We have a Tesla level 2 charger and an adapter for the Volvo and love the ease of charging v. gas. No turning back for us and will always have at least one full EV. Wife loves the Land Cruiser so happy wife, but I’m stoked for the Traveler. Think we may get the full EV version and will see. But I’m a realist and we expect it’ll be closer to $75K when it’s released if they have a version like their prototype. And it’s worth it!

 

[joewilk45]

I think if they start at 58 and you add 2 packages your looking at 68 k your Harvester Trailhawk 72,990 but thanks for Volvo data I love pilot assist etc and great for grandkids when they visit long time before we're picking colors

 

[Hatman]

I have deposits for each model and want the Harvester on both. Such a great concept for an EV but I want more than 150 on batteries. At least make it close to 50/50 of the 500 miles on batteries.