EREV F-150 Lightning Announced - new Terra competitor

[joewilk45]

Here's why EV's will be the future of automotive industry once batteries are able to deliver 500 plus miles of range it becomes a game changer people now only need to charge once a week for daily driving.

https://carbuzz.com/the-latest-solid-state-battery-developments/

 

[bababooey]

Here's why EV's will be the future of automotive industry once batteries are able to deliver 500 plus miles of range it becomes a game changer people now only need to charge once a week for daily driving.

https://carbuzz.com/the-latest-solid-state-battery-developments/

I suppose if you post enough links it will be true...

 

[PMurphy]

I love my V8’s and diesel trucks BUT change is coming. Mercedes Benz is an early mainstream (non-Chinese)adopter of solid state batteries. They have the built in profit margin to adapt more expensive technology. The performance advantages of EV’s are obvious to me. When battery technology matures beyond the current gen 1 stage demand will switch to EV and American auto manufacturers will be playing catch up again (ie small car demand after 70’s fuel crisis which brought Japanese cars to the US market they they now own).

The power grid is already an under significant pressure and will have to improve in the next 10 years for many reasons. In rural areas of Wisconsin Tesla charging stations have been popping up along the interstates and main state highways starting about 10 years ago. I am sure there were lines at times during the Christmas travel season (another reason to travel off peak besides avoiding idiot drivers trying to squeeze into fast lane after speeding up on your right.)

Now large gas station chains are starting to install EV chargers which will provide the next big push in additional capacity.

in the end I just want my Traveler with a decent battery. Will keep my ICE vehicles because I like them BUT will enjoy the benefits of full EV for a lot of my routine driving.

 

[joewilk45]

Once you drive an EV it's hard not to see that it's the future of automotive industry. Ice will always coexist but EV and battery technology will drive the automobile industry not turbo charged 4 cylinder engines. But as we see on this and all car forums the dinosaurs just can't accept it.

 

[WXman]

We understand what you're getting at but you really are using the word "inefficient" wrong. The lightning is more efficient than an equivalent ICE vehicle, full stop. The cost of electricity is a completely separate issue.

.....and if it were more efficient it wouldn't need as much electricity, so it's not a separate issue at all.

 

[bababooey]

.....and if it were more efficient it wouldn't need as much electricity, so it's not a separate issue at all.

I'm sorry, I don't know how to dumb it down enough for you to understand so I asked AI to explain it to you...

They are mixing up efficiency with cost (or just the size of the electricity number).

You're looking at that 50 kWh number and going "damn that's a lot of electricity" so it must be inefficient.

But here's the thing: a gas F-150 at 17 mpg uses almost 6 gallons to go 100 miles. Each gallon has the energy of about 34 kWh, so that's over 200 kWh worth of energy going in.

The Lightning (at 2 miles per kWh) uses only 50 kWh from the wall for those same 100 miles.

The EV is literally using a quarter of the energy to do the exact same job. That's straight-up more efficient.

The gas truck is swallowing four times more energy overall, we just measure it in gallons instead of kWh so the number doesn't look as big.

Efficiency = how much total energy it actually takes to move the truck. EV wins huge.

Cost is a totally separate thing (and usually cheaper with electricity anyway). That's the mix-up right there.