A TRUE WISH FOR CHARGING

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Full EV. no worries. Don't need range extender hardly at all to be honest. The ability to strap down a generator in the bed, or on a rack and charge while driving. My choice of generator. My ability to remove when not needed. Just something to help with those really long trips I take 2-3 times a year. Not having to stop for a couple hrs to charge because I could while moving would be amazing. Just a thought.
 

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Sounds good in theory.

But do you have any idea of the generator size needed to produce significant range extension? Given that a level 1 home charger running off of 110v will give about 5 mi. of range from a hours charge, you're going to need something you're not going to strap to your roof rack.

I wonder just what the size of the Harvester generator will be?
 
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I got a 9K for the CT when I go hunting for those rare cases. Used it once. Took about 2 hrs total stoping. Lunch, scouting, ect. Worked great. Just saying that I would bet 90% want the extender for piece of mind over actual need. In my case there is no electricity out there at all and it is always about 50 miles I need extra. Just a thought. Not get rid of the Harvester, just give the EV side that option to charge while driving maybe.
 

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Sounds like it's more than a wish for you. You're all set.
 

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The Harvester genset head will be in the 100-130KW range, A generator that size will need it's own trailer to haul. A 10K genset weighing in @ around 150-200 lbs will be a chore to lift, but would get you charged up in a couple hours. But it would use as much gas as the Harvester, take up bed space, be louder and much less convenient to use.
 

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More likely, about half that size.
I read somewhere it was about 130, but thought that was to large, to maintain full capabilities and roadability as stated it would have to be at least 80KW
 
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not after full capabilities. the ability to to just add a bit. take out when not needed. After the interview, would also give us back the towing and weight capability. Sometimes an extra 20 miles is all it takes.
 
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Sounds good in theory.

But do you have any idea of the generator size needed to produce significant range extension? Given that a level 1 home charger running off of 110v will give about 5 mi. of range from a hours charge, you're going to need something you're not going to strap to your roof rack.

I wonder just what the size of the Harvester generator will be?
I thought that somewhere it was mentioned that the Harvester is a 1.6 liter VW 4cyn engine. That's pretty big. Again, not sure...
 

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I thought that somewhere it was mentioned that the Harvester is a 1.6 liter VW 4cyn engine. That's pretty big. Again, not sure...
That's what it is speculated at being. The details for the generator have not yet been released.
 

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I have serious doubts the Scout Harvester will be nearly that large. A lot depends on the target market - and for a startup, that should be a mass target market. Only a small fraction of the market tows, and even that fraction does not tow regularly or long distance. It is just not a great target for a companies first steps out of the gate.

The Dodge Ramcharger was spec'ed with a 6cyl 130kw generator. Most of the EV truck reviews I have read have shown 140-160wkh batteries giving about 1.5hrs of range with a 10k load (and no discussion of how aerodynamic that trailer was). On the flip side, when not towing 2 miles/kw seems realistic for an EV truck not towing - so a generator slightly below 40kw would work. For best efficiency for most people the vast majority of the time - it is simply a better target. 40kw could be handled by a 70hp motor. Easy enough with a normally aspirated 4cyl motor.
 
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