Report: Scout EV Delayed. Only Hybrid Harvester at Launch / Start of Production

[Cocoskyern]

My question to the current EV owners do most charge at home? That would make life easier but I still love the ease of gas and not having to think about charging on the go. Also, the resale values on evs is horrendous basically forcing everyone to lease them or keeping it till it dies.

My business has 10 charging ports and for some reason they always have issues sometimes they work and then they don’t work. It has been it a total pain and I’m wondering if other ev owners have had issues with charging working away from home? Makes me not want an ev at all.

Yes we (myself, husband and son all have EV's) charge at home and work (mostly at work as we have solar there and electricity is cheaper for commercial buildings than residential). Never had an issue with any of our chargers, maybe the ones where you work weren't installed correctly?

I have no interest in going back to ICE or hybrid or any of those.

 

[scoutman]

Yes we (myself, husband and son all have EV's) charge at home and work (mostly at work as we have solar there and electricity is cheaper for commercial buildings than residential). Never had an issue with any of our chargers, maybe the ones where you work weren't installed correctly?

I have no interest in going back to ICE or hybrid or any of those.

Maybe they did install them wrong lol! It’s my business and with incentives it was a no brainer but we have occasionally ev owners come in and say it’s not working then we have to call the company and they do more back end stuff bla bla it’s really annoying and just made me wonder if this is more common. I hope not

 

[colinnwn]

Maybe they did install them wrong lol! It’s my business and with incentives it was a no brainer but we have occasionally ev owners come in and say it’s not working then we have to call the company and they do more back end stuff bla bla it’s really annoying and just made me wonder if this is more common. I hope not

There have been several studies of non-Tesla public EV charging reliability. Throwing out the best and worst numbers, the rest are very close to 1 in 5 failed charge attempts.

 

[Buzz]

It was pretty naive of people on here to expect delivery before 2029 if production is planned to start around Jan 1, 2028. Meanwhile Hyundai's EREV should be on north American roads in 3 quarters. The xrt pro Palisade has some surprisingly good off road reviews for a family hauler.

 

[colinnwn]

It was pretty naive of people on here to expect delivery before 2029 if production is planned to start around Jan 1, 2028. Meanwhile Hyundai's EREV should be on north American roads in 3 quarters. The xrt pro Palisade has some surprisingly good off road reviews for a family hauler.

Scout has said their goal is to start production build in late 2027 for delivery in 2028. I think hope they meet their timeline, rather than expect, is a better term for most of us. If my current truck holds out, I'd be fine with 2029.

But their sole investor is VW which is in a world of financial hurt right now with their very important Chinese business in decline. Scout Leadership I am sure is under intense pressure to deliver on time and under budget. The longer delivery extends the less healthy VW and Scout will be out of the gate.

 

[Buzz]

Scout has said their goal is to start production build in late 2027 for delivery in 2028. I think hope they meet their timeline, rather than expect, is a better term for most of us. If my current truck holds out, I'd be fine with 2029.

But their sole investor is VW which is in a world of financial hurt right now with their very important Chinese business in decline. Scout Leadership I am sure is under intense pressure to deliver on time and under budget. The longer delivery extends the less healthy VW and Scout will be out of the gate.

Late 2027 you say? As in I'll be home before midnight and stroll in the door at 11:30? Y'all have rose color lenses if you think production would start in 2027 Q1-2 with no delays. If they are originally aiming for end of 2027.. Even the smallest delay to start it's gonna be just about 2029 at best. Let's keep it real. It's still gonna be a long wait from here

 

[colinnwn]

Late 2027 you say? As in I'll be home before midnight and stroll in the door at 11:30? Y'all have rose color lenses if you think production would start in 2027 Q1-2 with no delays. If they are originally aiming for end of 2027.. Even the smallest delay to start it's gonna be just about 2029 at best. Let's keep it real. It's still gonna be a long wait from here

I don't need rose glasses. If they hit their mark or not it doesn't hurt me. I'll just be sad for them because the longer it strings on the less patience the VW board will have.

You are moving up the dates. Sure the factory will need to be doing some runs by Q2 2027 for demo vehicles and integration testing equipment to support their timeline. But it doesn't take weeks to build a car. They could start one line December 2027 and start very small scale deliveries in Q1 2028 and they met their public goal. Tesla has been doing this in addition to being delayed.

I'm sure the first year of production will be a slow ramp up, and a significant number of people on the wait list (if they get really good conversation to order rate) won't get their vehicle to 2029 anyway.

And of course they are starting a new company which is always a risky endeavor, in a bad economic environment for manufacturing in the USA which wasn't in their original schedule, so they have significant headwinds.

Most of us are realists. Some of us may be hoping more than others, to support our car replacement plans.

 

[chopsui]

Late 2027 you say? As in I'll be home before midnight and stroll in the door at 11:30? Y'all have rose color lenses if you think production would start in 2027 Q1-2 with no delays. If they are originally aiming for end of 2027.. Even the smallest delay to start it's gonna be just about 2029 at best. Let's keep it real. It's still gonna be a long wait from here

I don't understand this. Are you trying to say that if they start production in January of '28, it will take an entire year before deliveries happen? That's insane. It absolutely does not take a year for that to happen.

 

[SchnauzerDad]

I don't understand this. Are you trying to say that if they start production in January of '28, it will take an entire year before deliveries happen? That's insane. It absolutely does not take a year for that to happen.

Wife ordered a new 2019 Lincoln Nautilus, built in the US. Took 45 days from laying out some dough to delivery.
Wife likes color of 2023 Audi Q8 better a few years later so gets that ordered. Was built in Europe and delivered in 4 months.
After 2 years, wife and I agree that Audi Q8 is a dog of a car and can’t wait to get rid of it. Orders 2025 Jag FPace. Takes 9 months to get it, although 6 months of that was waiting for a build slot, so really 3 months. Superior car in most respects, by a long shot.
After my Fisker was built, I got it in a few months.
If Scouts are built here, sure betting that it will be relatively fast.

 

[atebit]

Saw this coming months ago when it was clear the Harvesters had the lion’s share of reservations. Don’t want to buy an ICE again so I guess I’m out.

 

[colinnwn]

Wife ordered a new 2019 Lincoln Nautilus, built in the US. Took 45 days from laying out some dough to delivery.
Wife likes color of 2023 Audi Q8 better a few years later so gets that ordered. Was built in Europe and delivered in 4 months.
After 2 years, wife and I agree that Audi Q8 is a dog of a car and can’t wait to get rid of it. Orders 2025 Jag FPace. Takes 9 months to get it, although 6 months of that was waiting for a build slot, so really 3 months. Superior car in most respects, by a long shot.
After my Fisker was built, I got it in a few months.
If Scouts are built here, sure betting that it will be relatively fast.

That can happen for a variety of reasons including batching similar builds, batch transporting vehicles to the area of final delivery, and just general inefficient processes that probably in aggregate reduce total expenses. But generally once a vehicle is completed car manufacturers want to earn the revenue and get it off their books fast.

Any one person on the reservation list is likely to wait months or even years to get their car depending on their build choices and where they agree to take delivery assuming DTC sales are allowed.

But if you were an early reservation and pick one of the early produced versions, and agree to take delivery at the main sales office in South Carolina, I'd expect those people to get their vehicles within a couple of weeks of build completion assuming no last minute discovered modifications or regulatory issues.

 

[LoneWolfo6]

So hoping for the EV Scout!

Hoping not to be a cash cow for VW, like Canoo, Sonders, Atlas did in the past five years.

So hope this ca get going and not be just bells a whistles to just to drive off in the sunset with investors cash?!

 

[gfmstl]

I'm never buying another ICE vehicle, hybrid or EREV. If the BEV gets pushed to 2029 that probably means looking at other options.

 

[joewilk45]

Well I think Scout has a long road ahead before we actually know what where and how much but I cannot see why both variants cannot be produced in a timely fashion. But once again the order sheets aren't even printed yet so no remote control car this Christmas

 

[Kjbeggs]

Well I think Scout has a long road ahead before we actually know what where and how much but I cannot see why both variants cannot be produced in a timely fashion. But once again the order sheets aren't even printed yet so no remote control car this Christmas

I tend to agree. Everyone at Scout has made a point of how it's a simple "drop-in" solution to add the Harvester engine.
doesn't seem like it should be much effort to run batches of both